World's ending. Today. Just so you know.

[tenoko1]

It's morons like this that discredit Christians and Christianity.

I mean, SRSLY. Okay, don't get me wrong: I'm Christian. But this guy is an idiot. It's like something went wrong in his studies because what he's saying COMPLETELY contradicts the Bible. First of all, no man or angel knows the day nor the hour that Jesus will come again. Not even Jesus knows. Only God knows and Jesus is just kickin back waiting for the word to go to town. Well, actually he sits at the right hand of God constantly interceding on our behalf, but that's not the point.

There is no secret code. And no God has not given humans the ability to decern some secret code we weren't able to decern before. And his math is stupid. I mean, REALLY. And what is he going to say when the world DOESN'T end? Last time he did this, he said he didn't pay enough attention to Jeremiah, which was were the flaw in his math was. No, his flaw is that he's trying to out-think God.

The Bible says that the rapture will come like a theif in the night, that there will be two in the field and the one will turn to find the other gone. Two in the bed, one will be gone. People will be going about their daily lives when people next to them vanish. Babies will vanish from hospitals and nurseries all over the world. Granted, I know this is hard to fathom, and sounds just as outrageous as his claims, but according to that Bible he's thumping THIS is the the way the Rapture will go down.

And it isn't up to God whether or not you get saved when that time comes. I mean, it is but it isn't. The Bible says there is ONE way to be saved: it's simple, painless, and doesn't require a monetary donation. 

John 14:6 says  ^" Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "

And then  (Romans 10:9-11). “For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved”

God is not a God of condemnation, he loves us even though this world and the people on it are so very screwed up. I may have offended like EVERYONE on my FL, but unfortunately, I don't apologize for it. Jesus was the most offensive man to ever walk the planet, Christians still seem to have a knack for it even today. The intolerance of a tolerant world, I suppose. If you have any questions or comments, have at it. If you would like to talk more privately, PM me. I do ask that you be respectful, even if you don't agree.

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[new_vogue_ravyn.livejournal.com]

You've not ofended me, because I know that not all Christians are utter douchebags and/or morons. And I am cool with whatever people believe as long as they don't push it on other people who aren't interested and don't use it as an excuse to preach hate or hurt people(which is against the whole point of what Jesus stood for, as far as I'm aware).

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

I don't push it on people, because I've been there. I've always been saved but that doesn't mean I was always exactly in the right place in my relationship with God either, and when you constantly are getting preached at and religion shoved down your throat and all your wrongs pointed out- I bristle up and come back snarling. So, yeah, I get the whole "Stop pushing me!" thing.

I invited a total of eight people to go to church, sunday school, and then a big eat out BBQ with my family afterwards, even offered to pick them up and drive if they were worried about gas, and suggested we could go to breakfast before hand and I would buy. I got all 'no's. Robert blew me off, Josh said yes then bailed so I'll ask him to another sunday service, Tyler politely told me "No Thank you", Roger said "hell no" while His wife simeultaneously said "Aw, that's sweet! But... uh, no. Roger wouldn't ever."

We're having the get together anyway because there are some new people that just moved here that we are actually trying to help get plugged into the area, make friends, etc. in order to make their move easier. So we decided to invite a bunch of people to church with us too and then to the eat out to make it a real event. So far it isn't going well. :(

That made us sound terrible, actually. We aren't preachy. Like at all. lol That's part of our problem I think, we don't think to tell people that we're christians and ask "Hey you wanna go to church with me and then come by the house afterward to eat and play softball out in the yard." You just mention church and people cringe away. The people at my church are all really nice and friendly and not pushy. I wouldn't go there if they were. lol Cuz, like I said, You get pushy and preachy, I get mad. he he

[khaleesi.livejournal.com]

Thank you. I couldn't agree with you more. You said everything I was thinking, just in better terms. I can never get a point across without sounding stupid. :(

Totally, 100% in agreement with you. And I'm getting ready to go to a birthday party, so I didn't get a chance to check the link yet...

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

lol I have a tend to say too much, so I try to reign myself in so I don't go off on a tangent.

Have fun at the B-day party! Who is it for? Will you be, erm, okay? I know you have social anxiety issues. Was that the right term?

[rose-of-pain.livejournal.com]

I'm not Christian but I grew up in a Christian background and it amazes me how stupid people are about this. Had one girl I know online freak out over it and I'm all "...you're not going to die. Its not the end of the world. Do you even know what the Rapture is?" x_x;; And she's supposed to be Catholic. lol Yet I seem to know more than most my friends proclaiming to be Christian. Kinda sad. I wonder how many have actually read the Bible. I have.

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

Problem came from her being Catholic. They believe differently than Christians even though we believe in the same God. They are also taught to not read their Bibles for themselves, they only know what is preached in Church which can be misconstrued. Bible says seek out the scriptures for yourself. Catholics don't do that.

[rouen81.livejournal.com]

Hi just adding my two cents. Catholics are no longer taught that they shouldn't read the Eible and while many follow what the pope says I can assure many more just seem him as a benevolent figure but don't follow or believe everything he does.

Problem here is that many catholics and I believe it can apply to mambers of other faiths are catholics because their parents are catholics and don't read the Bible or go to church that often.

[cantabrasil03.livejournal.com]

This is the most sense I've heard all week concerning this guy. *hugs*

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

Oh wow, I'm shocked by the agreement I've encountered when posting this. I mean, I know no one except his own small group of followers takes him seriously, but I thought more people would be "God is a fictional character created by the weak to help them survive in life".

[missnox.livejournal.com]

My mother confirmed this. No one could predict something like this. It's not up to people, right?

I seem to be facing spiritual difficulty at the moment. Trying to get through it but flailing. This 'rapture' prediction did not help. ^^;

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

What seems to be the problem? And the Rapture isn't a bad thing if you're saved and you know you're right with God. If your A Christian, it's a GREAT thing. It's only dramatic for the people left behind. Those who get taken, it'll be in the blink of an eye. You're in your room, fighting the final boss in a video game, blink, and suddenly you are staring at Jesus. Disorienting to be sure, but a great thing.

What spititual difficulty are you facing at the moment? I'll see if I can help. If not, I'll see if I can find someone who can help you better than I can.

[missnox.livejournal.com]

Well, without going into it too deeply, I believe in God. I don't necessarily follow one religion or the other, because there are too many types to be honest with you. I believe in the Christian God in general. Just thinking that God is the reason for me being alive/conscious and for everything in the universe being just as it is enough for me.

But people always tell me they feel him and he gives them strength. But I neither feel him or feel any strength. I feel alone, is all. I pray and ask him to make himself known to me, but I don't feel anything. I know the easy response would be that I'm not praying hard enough, or that I don't truly want it, but I ask you not to say that.

I guess I'll just keep trying. I'm having a touch time with this. My Dad's idea of being a Christian is very relaxed. He doesn't want to talk about it. My Mum's idea of being a Christian is more involved as she goes to church and does healing sessions and such. The most troubling thing is that she told me a few years ago she had an experience which confirmed her belief in God. She's 50+ now, so will I have to wait that long? ^^;

And I have no problem with the rapture. ;) I wasn't afraid of it or anything. If it happened at least I'd know about it and have certainty in my heart about it, so when I died I would be safe in the knowledge of who was there. It's the not feeling him and not having positive feelings to hone in on that worries me. =(

Anyway, I'm not always up for difficult debates or conversations about things like this. I feel like my heart/head is a jack in the box, always bouncing about.

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

Not feeling him doesn't mean he isn't there. Same as people who don't believe in him, it doesn't make him not real or even make him stop believing in that person.

What are you doing in order to "feel" God as you say? And I would never say you aren't praying hard enough or that you don't trully want it. I think you need a support group for whatever it is your are going through. If you lived anywhere near me, I'd invite you to start going to church with me, you could even come over before hand and I'd make breakfast, or we could go over to my aunt's for breakfast.

When you feel alone and isolated from God, sometimes it takes a step of faith to try and get closer to him, even if you think it won't help. Find a church to start going to on sundays, and a sunday school class, get plugged in and try to make friends- sometimes it takes you making the first step. Christians aren't perfect either, we make a lot of mistakes. Sometimes just having those people around you and hearing tht God loves you is what makes you feel him.

I know people talk about having 'experiences' with God, but God isn't a once in a lifetime thing. He's with you every moment of everyday, whether you feel him or not, and whether you like it or not.

The challenge that my local radio station puts out is "30 Days of Positive Music". Find your local contemporary Christian radio station and keep it on that setting. You my not like it very much at first- I didn't- but you'll get use to it, and you'll also start to feel a difference towards it, and maybe just in general.

And also, I'm here if you ever need me. And if you want to talk more privately, PM, or even ask me for my phone number, or give me yours. One phone call, and I'm on the other end. ^_^ (and should I NOT pick up, leave a message so I'll know it's you and can call you back.)

[missnox.livejournal.com]

That's really supportive and generous of you to offer. I'll always note/ask for help from friends when needed, hence why I asked you since I know how strong your faith is. ^^

It makes me feel better to think of getting back into touch with my Christianity. I asked Mum to take me to church next Sunday. I also spent today shifting between relaxing online and relaxing on the sofa (with the Christian Radio station on in the background the whole time). So your advice of doing those things made me feel better- like I was on the right track. I quite like the music actually. ^^

This morning I woke up and went downstairs. Mum's "psalms and new testament" bible was right there, sitting on the kitchen counter. Kind of staring me in the face. The book details "30 selective readings" you can read before doing their "short one reading per day" sessions. According to the book, it you follow their yearly (one per day) suggestions you'll get through the whole new testament Bible comfortably in a year or two, or something like that. Depending on how much you read per day. It'll be interesting to be sure.

The first selective reading sugegstion was John 1:1-18. I don't pretend to know the chapters at all, so I had no idea what it would be about. It was about Jesus' preaching up until he was arrested. I found it to be easy reading for the most part, and there were many positive things I took from it. My Mother says that not all of the Bible is comforting or agreeable, but this was something good to start with.

As for him walking with me all the time... I still have a book from before I fell our with Christianity. It's called "Footsteps" if you know it? Well, it's a good book. Might give that a look later. It is comforting. ^^

Thanks again for your help and understanding. I don't think there are any youth groups in my area, but I suffer from severe anxieties and social awkuardness, so I'll probably go to church as a first step. ^___^ Haven't been in a looooooong time. ^w^

[tenoko1.livejournal.com]

Just take it a step at a time as far as getting into a group goes, and just basically be yourself. My mother always told me that if I was ever felt the need to say something just to say something- keep my mouth shut, because generally whatever comes out you kick yourself for later. Everyone is like that, socially awkward or no. I think you might surprise yourself if you step out of your comfort zone.

Also, if there is a used book store in your are, you can always browse their christian books section. It's where I got my 'everyday' bible from. I like it, it's not in order at all, as you will read small sections from various books every day, and then there's always a prayer for you to pray at the end that ties in with what you read, and a 'further study' in case something you read intruiged you or left you with questions. If you don't have a used book store.... AMAZON.COM BABY! <-they have everything. And are very 3V!L for it. lol for l33t speak.

[missnox.livejournal.com]

I don't usually understand l33t speech, but I did there. XD!

Yes, looking through the Footsteps book, it also has tonnes of other poems and prayers in it. I've got two sources to go by. Mum gave me the Footsteps book. =D

Now we're going to church on Thursday, because it's quieter then apparently. ;)